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Old 09-05-2010, 12:26 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Amateur vs. Pro/Amateur Content

How can you tell if it is professional and not amateur?

Guidelines for Professional Content


Photos:
Large photo shoots that look like they are taken by a professional photographer.
Professional Models

Videos:
An interview in the beginning of a video clip
A Camera Operator
Perfect Lighting
Talking To The Camera
Close-Ups
Distance Changes (camera moves)
Different Angles
Editing

Basically, if you couldn't or wouldn't film it in the throws of passion then neither could they. That probably indicates it is professional and not amateur content.
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well there are good chances of a third person. I usually can tell, but those so much of it in the video's it's getting way out of control. Maybe for every message a mod can put in red bold that it's verified or each section have a thread of the video's that are verified. Probably way too much work and I can't imagine the migraines over it. At least for the video's I've almost given up to not checking them anymore.
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well there are good chances of a third person. I usually can tell, but those so much of it in the video's it's getting way out of control. Maybe for every message a mod can put in red bold that it's verified or each section have a thread of the video's that are verified. Probably way too much work and I can't imagine the migraines over it. At least for the video's I've almost given up to not checking them anymore.
I think we are very good at sorting these out. We do not catch every one that is posted and some are really good pro/am so it can be hard to tell. Some amateur actually is very good quality these days and can look like pro.

What I really like is for you and other members to hit the report button which saves all the mods a lot of time finding this stuff. So please do not stop reporting stuff that you find. I encourage all members to let us know when you find something that isn't supposed to be posted here.

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well there are good chances of a third person. I usually can tell, but those so much of it in the video's it's getting way out of control. Maybe for every message a mod can put in red bold that it's verified or each section have a thread of the video's that are verified. Probably way too much work and I can't imagine the migraines over it. At least for the video's I've almost given up to not checking them anymore.
I think we are very good at sorting these out. We do not catch every one that is posted and some are really good pro/am so it can be hard to tell. Some amateur actually is very good quality these days and can look like pro.

What I really like is for you and other members to hit the report button --> which saves all the mods a lot of time finding this stuff. So please do not stop reporting stuff that you find. I encourage all members to let us know when you find something that isn't supposed to be posted here. Simply look for this symbol at the lower left of every post and click it. It asks you to describe the problem. All you need to do is write pro content or whatever. You don't need to write a novel. When we receive your report it gives us the exact location so all we need to do is click on the link and check out the problem and take appropriate action.

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I think we are very good at sorting these out. We do not catch every one that is posted and some are really good pro/am so it can be hard to tell. Some amateur actually is very good quality these days and can look like pro.

What I really like is for you and other members to hit the report button which saves all the mods a lot of time finding this stuff. So please do not stop reporting stuff that you find. I encourage all members to let us know when you find something that isn't supposed to be posted here.

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even if it might be in doubt? or should I say when in doubt send a report anyway
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even if it might be in doubt? or should I say when in doubt send a report anyway
Yup, we always take a look at it and determine if we feel it needs to removed or not. If you report something and you're not sure about it you should say so and we'll be careful to check it out.
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Going over your list....

I have shot a few - considered myself VERY fortunate for that by the way - and I used an additional light, mounting it just on top of the camcorder. Here is a photo of me shooting a still looking into a mirror. Note the light on the cam:



Poor lighting is a major factor in a video not coming out very well. There are other factors as well, for me personally, that make practically 99 percent of the videos posted of no interest to me. I can elaborate further if anyone wishes to discuss.

Yes, I will be posting some clips soon and you will see how much the 'non-pro' lighting helps.
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Going over your list....

I have shot a few - considered myself VERY fortunate for that by the way - and I used an additional light, mounting it just on top of the camcorder. Here is a photo of me shooting a still looking into a mirror. Note the light on the cam:



Poor lighting is a major factor in a video not coming out very well. There are other factors as well, for me personally, that make practically 99 percent of the videos posted of no interest to me. I can elaborate further if anyone wishes to discuss.

Yes, I will be posting some clips soon and you will see how much the 'non-pro' lighting helps.
oh good a photographer helps to have a slave flash too. have a pocket slave flash runs off a battery. called Xtralite That model seems to be dead. Got it at ol Porters (which I had no idea I'd be living a couple of miles from) works with digital cameras too. Just an extra flash. Was kinda hoping to find a cable release for my promaster but hasn't yet. (for um the shutter release on bulb shots. on a tripod during the night
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That still camera is just a 'point and shoot,' nothing fancy. I shot that photo without the flash intentionally. Slowed the shutter down to about 1/4, I believe, and stayed VERY still.

The lamp used for video is a 150 watt 'show and grow' (I think they still make them, bought it MANY years ago) inside an aluminum thing with a gripper clamp running on regular house current. It has kind of a reddish temperature hue but it's all I had and I knew how important it was to have plenty of light on the subject.

Sample video grab:

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That still camera is just a 'point and shoot,' nothing fancy. I shot that photo without the flash intentionally. Slowed the shutter down to about 1/4, I believe, and stayed VERY still.

The lamp used for video is a 150 watt 'show and grow' (I think they still make them, bought it MANY years ago) inside an aluminum thing with a gripper clamp running on regular house current. It has kind of a reddish temperature hue but it's all I had and I knew how important it was to have plenty of light on the subject.

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well my SLR is a manual 35mm. brother has the fancy but breaking auto SLR 35mm. Manual lasts longer and isn't as fancy. and with auto's you can't do the bulb function. (which you need a cable release to do effectively) all the other delayed shutters one can do the timer on. and of course Clark doesn't know shit about developing b/w 35mm with a red filter on, so they send it to some idiot who doesn't bother to cut the negative (which back in the day .. you didn't cut the negative, but makes it harder to scan the negative when clark doesn't print them right (too bright) still waiting for one batch to decurl. wouldn't mind knowing of a better way to decurl a roll of negatives (this is real b/w film. not fake C-41 b/w film.)
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